Discussion:
InterOrg 5.5 - 2003 Migration
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Massimo
2008-03-25 18:15:23 UTC
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I'm working on a migration project from an Exchange 5.5 organization to an
Exchange 2003 one. The two organizations are not linked in any way, and are
associated to different Windows domains.

The scenario:

- Domain A (NT)
- Domain B (Active Directory 2003)
- Exchange Org A (5.5, linked to domain A)
- Exchange Org B (2003, linked to domain B)
- Domain A and domain B are trusted
- User accounts in domain A have already been migrated to domain B with SID
history
- Every user in domain B has a mailbox in Org A and another one in Org B,
and they are both in use.
- There are lots of public folders, shared mailboxes and distribution lists
in Org A

We're planning on using ExMerge or the Exchange Migration Wizard to move the
mailboxes, and the Inter-Org Replication Tool (also known as ExchSync) to
replicate the public folders.

The problems:

- How can we migrate the distribution lists? We've tried the Active
Directory Connector, but it creates them in domain B as contacts instead of
distribution groups.
- ACLs on shared mailboxes: both ExMerge and the EMW don't migrate them,
they only migrate the mailbox *contents*. We need to migrate permissions
too. We've tried ADC here too, but it looks like it doesn't migrate this
kind of informations in an inter-org scenario.
- ACLs on public folders: same as above, ExchSync doesn't migrate them, only
the hierarchy (and not at top level) and the folder contents.

I think we can handle the DLs with a directory export and some scripting,
but we're totally lost on migrating ACLs; there are hundreds of shared
mailboxes and public folders, and it would be *really* a pain to have to set
them manually. Every permission is given to user accounts (or groups) in
domain B, because accounts from domain A have already been migrated, but we
just don't know how to replicate them in Org B.

Any help would be really appreciated, and third-party tools are welcome if
they can do the job.


Massimo
Ed Crowley [MVP]
2008-03-25 22:18:26 UTC
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Inline below.
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Post by Massimo
I'm working on a migration project from an Exchange 5.5 organization to an
Exchange 2003 one. The two organizations are not linked in any way, and
are associated to different Windows domains.
- Domain A (NT)
- Domain B (Active Directory 2003)
- Exchange Org A (5.5, linked to domain A)
- Exchange Org B (2003, linked to domain B)
- Domain A and domain B are trusted
- User accounts in domain A have already been migrated to domain B with
SID history
- Every user in domain B has a mailbox in Org A and another one in Org B,
and they are both in use.
- There are lots of public folders, shared mailboxes and distribution
lists in Org A
We're planning on using ExMerge or the Exchange Migration Wizard to move
the mailboxes, and the Inter-Org Replication Tool (also known as ExchSync)
to replicate the public folders.
- How can we migrate the distribution lists? We've tried the Active
Directory Connector, but it creates them in domain B as contacts instead
of distribution groups.
You could use IIS or some other directory synchronization tool. If you were
to purchase the Quest Migration Manager 8.0 suite, you'd also have a
solution, and it'd likely result in a migration that's less painful on your
users. However, since you've already started the process, creating your
accounts, whatever tool you try to use at this time is likely going to cause
some problems. Tools work well when you start your process with them, but
often give you grief in myriad little ways when you try to use them in a
process that's been completed halfway.
Post by Massimo
- ACLs on shared mailboxes: both ExMerge and the EMW don't migrate them,
they only migrate the mailbox *contents*. We need to migrate permissions
too. We've tried ADC here too, but it looks like it doesn't migrate this
kind of informations in an inter-org scenario.
See Quest above.
Post by Massimo
- ACLs on public folders: same as above, ExchSync doesn't migrate them,
only the hierarchy (and not at top level) and the folder contents.
See Quest above.
Post by Massimo
I think we can handle the DLs with a directory export and some scripting,
It's certainly doable with scripting; I've scripted distribution list and
group synchronization more than once in my career. But it's time-consuming
to develop something like that from scratch.
Post by Massimo
but we're totally lost on migrating ACLs; there are hundreds of shared
mailboxes and public folders, and it would be *really* a pain to have to
set them manually.
This is also scriptable, but it would be complex as well. Some of this will
be solved for you temporarily if you use SID history, at least until you
decide to get rid of the old SIDs.
Post by Massimo
Every permission is given to user accounts (or groups) in domain B,
because accounts from domain A have already been migrated, but we just
don't know how to replicate them in Org B.
Any help would be really appreciated, and third-party tools are welcome if
they can do the job.
Massimo
Massimo
2008-03-25 22:39:32 UTC
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Post by Ed Crowley [MVP]
Quest Migration Manager 8.0
Another Quest product (Domain Migration Wizard) has been used to migrate
user accounts; if this one can help with the three problems I mentioned,
maybe I can suggest purchasing it.
Post by Ed Crowley [MVP]
This is also scriptable, but it would be complex as well. Some of this
will be solved for you temporarily if you use SID history, at least until
you decide to get rid of the old SIDs.
Exchange 5.5 ACLs already map to domain B's user accounts (Quest DMW's
module for Exchange 5.5 remapped them during the migration), so no SID
history is needed; what we need is to replicate the actual ACLs on Exchange
2003 mailboxes and public folders.


Massimo

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